Annual QOM / KOM

[biciklanto]

Strava leaderboards for Queen of the Mountain & King of the Mountain are stale, and many of them hold absolutely untouchable records made by unusual participants in events. (a good example is a pro peloton riding through the local hillclimb with a favorable tailwind — no amateur will ever be in the top-10 again.)

My request is an all-time leaderboard, and to make KOM/QOM awards annual. You were the fastest this year? Perfect! Your name is the one that will appear as KOM on the segment. As an added benefit, there could be an additional section of the Trophy Case for winning QOM/KOM trophies for a year.

This would freshen up leaderboards on many of the world's most important and major segments, making them more accessible and reigniting competition each year, rather than relegating the leaderboards to yesteryear or having to filter to find the "This Year" results (which just isn't as exciting).

[Trevorhurt]

Could we have in addition to segment "PR" a segment "APR". An annual PR, i.e. fastest time of this segment this year!

This would give more opportunities to identify and be rewarded for recent beats, even if we can't beat our all time beats of previous years.

[zecanard]

One possible solution would be to only keep K/QoMs and CRs from the previous calendar year. This solves a number of issues:

1. Adopts the concept of a seasonal leaderboard, keeping results fresh, encouraging more athletes to compete, and expiring old records that may have been achieved when the terrain looked completely different or under exceptional circumstances.
2. Doesn’t lead to records disappearing mid-season, as would happen with a rolling window. The records are set for the entire calendar year.
3. Avoids January spam, since records would still be spread across the entirety of the previous year. In fact, some records may still not be beaten the entire season. Strava could further recognize anyone who maintains an unbeaten record through two seasons with a historical K/QoM/CR.

Of course the all-time/historical leaderboard would persist, but you’d have to click-through to view it. The main one we would compete against would be the seasonal leaderboard. Or it could be configured similar to the current Default Leaderboard View setting.

Either way, every platform with a competitive ladder has some form of seasonal reset to maintain user engagement and competition, so Strava needs to follow suit. I’m sure something similar could be done for PRs as well as monthly Challenges too. The possibilities are endless. You only need to look at the recency bias of Local Legends to see how keeping records fresh can make competition more fun and engaging.

[zecanard]

I support something like this, but it may get merged with this existing Idea.

[dk]

I'm with Jan_Mantau, a world record is a world record until someone breaks that record. This should also apply to Strava segments. Anyone can create their own segments anywhere in the world, even where there are no pro athletes competing. Resetting segments just because others aren't able to perform well goes against the idea of leaderboards, then you just have to invest more time in your training if you want to get a KOM/QOM.

[Komkommer]

I'm not for this, I'd rather break a 10 year old record (happened last week actually) and feel good about destroying it. My suggestion, try harder cause records are made to be broken.

[K9]

Make it a rolling year: every day the effort is pegged against the last 365 days. That way it encompasses all seasons etc. for the last year.

For the current KOM this motivates them to keep working as opposed to rest on their laurels, and for upcoming competitors gives them a chance.

Also will be a more realistic reflection of changing trail conditions for MTB segments. There are KOMs that were set when the trail was new and buff that are impossible to ever achieve now as the trail has evolved or been rerouted.

[KevinUptain]

This is important. On one of my favorite trails 16 of the top 20 times are 8 years old or more. The trail has changed a lot since then. Maybe a way toggle between the last 3-5 years and all-time. 

[Dwest87]

I'm sure this used to be a thing and it's disappeared. I'm sure it used to be a hollow crown.

Would love to see this feature implemented or return for the reasons mentioned 

[Lewis34]

Would it be possible to compete for a Crown for the current year in addition to the all time crown. I think it may motivate other athletes to battle it out to stay on top for the year. Sometimes the crown has been held for years and may not represent current athletes achievements.

[anchskier]

They tried this before a number of years ago.  It was resoundingly disliked.  It just cluttered up the segments results and took value away from the overall crowns because all of a sudden, it didn't take much of anything to earn a crown of one kind or another.  

[K9]

A rolling KOM/QOM (or top 10) wouldn't clutter feeds as it wouldn't be a "free for all" at some arbitrary reset where everyone is clamoring for the KOM and re-filling the leaderboard. That's what stank about the annual reset they tried years ago: in January (an arbitrary time) everything reset and was up-for-grabs filling up feeds at the turn of the year with a silly KOM race.

At best, with a rolling KOM, you'd probably see a crown once a year, as the top effort would be compared to the top efforts from the last 365 days. When that super-fast time "timed out," you'd have all the other times that came in right behind it over the last 364 days to beat before earning the KOM.

And no need to retroactively crown the former 2nd place to KOM when the KOM times out, that'll be on the leader-board which is dynamic and may changed daily. (And not just KOM, 2nd place may drop out before the KOM, providing an opening there...)

Advantages to a rolling KOM system:

• That super-unachievable KOM earned with a rare 120mph tailwind and all the traffic lights setting up perfect will live on as the All-Time KOM (nice work!), but mere mortals will still be able to compete in a meaningful way on a dynamic playing field.
• Motivates riders to keep working (at least every 365 days), rather than just KOM hunt and rest on their laurels.
• Recognizes that terrain changes over time, and maybe a KOM from 10 years ago isn't realistic today because a trail has completely changed due to re-routes, erosion, etc.
• It accounts for seasonality by encompassing the last 364 days which includes the end of last season and the beginning of this season, no matter what season in whichever hemisphere you put that effort down.
• Allows you to notice when your buddy is kicking *ss out there because they get the fastest freaking time in the last 365 days! something that might be utterly lost otherwise because the All-Time Top 10 is stacked with impressive but unachievable 1-off Herculean efforts.

[Sbrad167]

I’m for this and think it’s a necessity especially in MTB where trail features are constantly altering but the route stays the same, So from a gps tracking point of view the trail hasn’t changed however in some cases there’s multiple jumps and drops may have been added, or even degradation with breaking bumps and blown out corners. I myself hold KOMS that are years old that I’ll never even get close to with the current trail arrangement 

Hollow crowns with a calendar reset like previously stated and used are a great way of moving things forward.  

[ARoger]

A rolling KOM/QOM would be great!

[anchskier]

They did that once years ago and it was resoundingly disliked.  It just clogged up the results feeds with trophies for everything.  Really diluted the excitement for a trophy.