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N00DlesHead
Shkhara
Status: Delivered

Why is there no way to view segments on the map made by ebikers?  I can view cycling, walking and running.  I made several ebike segments that are public not private, but nothing on the map shows a way to view ebike segments.  I'd like to see if anyone else happened to make any in my city and have others able to see the ones I've made all the same as if they were on a regular pedal bike.

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Soren
Denali

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Stifensore
Shkhara

I agree NOODlesHead but I don't even know how to create an e-bike only segment.  Couldn't find an answer on Strava Support.  All I see  when I do an e-bike ride is "no segments."  So how to create one and then view it?

N00DlesHead
Shkhara

Stifensore to create a segment obviously change your ride to an ebike ride (why this isn't a default option to begin with I dont know) then you go online on a computer and look at your ride.  Under the ride has the segments list, obviously there's none but there's a button I think on the left to create segment.  From there you choose the segment you want to make with your ride by moving the start and end points, name it and you're done (uncheck the MAKE PRIVATE mark).  As an ebike ride it creates an ebike segment.  Viewing it in the app is a whole other thing, it can't be done unless you open the app and open that ride, it'll list the segments you rode.  That's the ONLY way, they still don't show up on the map.  Funny thing, I've created about 10 or so segments by now and Strava checks backlogs of other ebike riders and adds them so beware, even though it's new you may not have KOM lol, it happened to me on 2 segments so far.

Ttthomas94
Mt. Kenya

Came here looking for a solution to this problem. Hopefully they add this soon. After creating some ebike segments from my ride today it then suggested similar segments that had previously been made in the same area. This is the only way I could have discovered them other than accidentally riding them. There seems to be no other way to know where there are other segments in the area.

m986
Shkhara

Not only can you not see an e-bike segment on the map, you also cannot search for it by name even if you know it exists.

The obvious way to have dealt with this (especially for off road use) would be to have just one segment for a piece of trail, then have different leaderboards for each of the categories that use it (e-bike, normal bike, trail runner etc). But for some reason, in their wisdom Strava decided that each category of user has to create their own segment - and then not allow you to search for it. Stupid!

anchskier
Denali

@m986- One thought I had regarding why they didn't do what you said and just allow any one segment to be used by the various different activity types is that there are a lot of areas that one or the other is not allowed. For example, there are a number of bike trails that are restricted to bikes only, so it would be bad to have segments there show up as running segments too (I know people who have tried to justify biking on closed trails because there was a segment for it, so "it must be okay"). Same goes for bikes vs. e-bikes. There are still a lot of areas that are open to regular bikes, but closed to e-bikes.

Personally, I prefer that each activity type gets to make their own segments. They can tailor the segment to their activity better. What is a good segment start/end point for a bike might not be the same for a run.

I do agree that they should make segments for things like e-bikes much easier to find, both through searching and on the map. Hopefully that ability will be added soon.

m986
Shkhara

@anchskier- I take some of your points about trail access - having bikes riding on runner only trails just because there's a segment there would be wrong. I also assume you're in the US - possibly the only country in the world where e-bikes aren't necessarily allowed where 'normal' bikes are?

But for most of the world, the same trails get ridden by normal bikes and e-bikes - there really is no reason that the same segment can't be used for both.

And yes, I also hope that the search & map functions will be updated. But I doubt it - this has been an issue since the e-bike category was created several years ago and has been raised multiple times in the community forums. I assume Strava is an American company? Maybe it's because of the access issues you mentioned - but surely they could give the rest of the world the facility even if they don't feel comfortable doing it in the US?

pwiles1968
Mt. Kenya

The search facilities on Strava are pretty poor they do not differentiate between on road and also no eBike filter when they make you create seperate segments is terrible, sure hope they fix this soon otherwise not much reason to be paying an annual membership.

TomPauwels
Mt. Kenya

C'mon Strava! You can do better than this. Fix this! We need it.

Sylvain
Mt. Kenya

I agree, c'mon Strava get with the times. Ebikes are not a fad but a growing market. Make it as easy for us as other users! It does not seem to be so complicated either...

m986
Shkhara

I think we're wasting our time here - this has been an issue for many years now but Strava have done nothing. It's not like it's a 'feature request' - searching for segments is a core part of the system which is available to all but e-bike riders.

Considering 90% of my rides are now e-bike, and they've recently upped the price of a subscription, if they don't have this sorted by the time my renewal is due they can stick their app where the sun don't shine - I won't be renewing. 

DerekJ
Shkhara

Just started doing some test rides on a borrowed ebike. I can see the ebike segments that I've ridden on these tests but wanted to search for other ebike segments in the same general areas.... but can't. Either how? or why not?

Karinalma
Mt. Kenya

I made a lot of live segments for ebike and now I wanted to subscribe to Premium. I can save the money if I can't watch live segments on my Karoo.

Very sad, Strava 😠

EPICO
Mt. Kenya

Another reason to save money and not become premium!!!

Good job strava team!!!!

Stigo
Mt. Kenya

The nummer of E-bike users are growing - please put this feature in place or users will move to other platforms