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biciklanto
Shkhara
Status: Gathering Kudos

Strava leaderboards for Queen of the Mountain & King of the Mountain are stale, and many of them hold absolutely untouchable records made by unusual participants in events. (a good example is a pro peloton riding through the local hillclimb with a favorable tailwind — no amateur will ever be in the top-10 again.)

My request is an all-time leaderboard, and to make KOM/QOM awards annual. You were the fastest this year? Perfect! Your name is the one that will appear as KOM on the segment. As an added benefit, there could be an additional section of the Trophy Case for winning QOM/KOM trophies for a year.

This would freshen up leaderboards on many of the world's most important and major segments, making them more accessible and reigniting competition each year, rather than relegating the leaderboards to yesteryear or having to filter to find the "This Year" results (which just isn't as exciting).

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Jan_Mantau
Denali

For a rolling year leaderboard an idea already exists: https://communityhub.strava.com/t5/strava-features-chat/rolling-365-day-kom-leaderboards-badge/m-p/7...

What means FKT?

Salespunk
Mt. Kenya

FKT is Fastest Know Time.  An FKT is more representative of what the fastest time posted in Strava really is since someone could have gone faster and just not been in Strava or not made it public. 

Jane
Moderator Moderator
Moderator

Hello @Salespunk 

Thanks for posting about this.  I'm merging this suggestion in with this existing one since they are similar/overlapping.  I would suggest adding any additional comments you may have and also add your vote (kudos).  

Thanks again for sharing your thoughts.  


Jane (she/her)
STRAVA | Community Hub Team

Dwest87
Mt. Kenya

I'm sure this used to be a thing and it's disappeared. I'm sure it used to be a hollow crown.

Would love to see this feature implemented or return for the reasons mentioned 

Lewis34
Mt. Kenya

Would it be possible to compete for a Crown for the current year in addition to the all time crown. I think it may motivate other athletes to battle it out to stay on top for the year. Sometimes the crown has been held for years and may not represent current athletes achievements.

anchskier
Denali

They tried this before a number of years ago.  It was resoundingly disliked.  It just cluttered up the segments results and took value away from the overall crowns because all of a sudden, it didn't take much of anything to earn a crown of one kind or another.  

K9
Shkhara

A rolling KOM/QOM (or top 10) wouldn't clutter feeds as it wouldn't be a "free for all" at some arbitrary reset where everyone is clamoring for the KOM and re-filling the leaderboard. That's what stank about the annual reset they tried years ago: in January (an arbitrary time) everything reset and was up-for-grabs filling up feeds at the turn of the year with a silly KOM race.

At best, with a rolling KOM, you'd probably see a crown once a year, as the top effort would be compared to the top efforts from the last 365 days. When that super-fast time "timed out," you'd have all the other times that came in right behind it over the last 364 days to beat before earning the KOM.

And no need to retroactively crown the former 2nd place to KOM when the KOM times out, that'll be on the leader-board which is dynamic and may changed daily. (And not just KOM, 2nd place may drop out before the KOM, providing an opening there...)

Advantages to a rolling KOM system:

  • That super-unachievable KOM earned with a rare 120mph tailwind and all the traffic lights setting up perfect will live on as the All-Time KOM (nice work!), but mere mortals will still be able to compete in a meaningful way on a dynamic playing field.
  • Motivates riders to keep working (at least every 365 days), rather than just KOM hunt and rest on their laurels.
  • Recognizes that terrain changes over time, and maybe a KOM from 10 years ago isn't realistic today because a trail has completely changed due to re-routes, erosion, etc.
  • It accounts for seasonality by encompassing the last 364 days which includes the end of last season and the beginning of this season, no matter what season in whichever hemisphere you put that effort down.
  • Allows you to notice when your buddy is kicking *ss out there because they get the fastest freaking time in the last 365 days! something that might be utterly lost otherwise because the All-Time Top 10 is stacked with impressive but unachievable 1-off Herculean efforts.

 

 

Sbrad167
Mt. Kenya

I’m for this and think it’s a necessity especially in MTB where trail features are constantly altering but the route stays the same, So from a gps tracking point of view the trail hasn’t changed however in some cases there’s multiple jumps and drops may have been added, or even degradation with breaking bumps and blown out corners. I myself hold KOMS that are years old that I’ll never even get close to with the current trail arrangement 

Hollow crowns with a calendar reset like previously stated and used are a great way of moving things forward.  

ARoger
Pico de Orizaba

A rolling KOM/QOM would be great!

VeronicaGC
Mt. Kenya
 
anchskier
Denali

They did that once years ago and it was resoundingly disliked.  It just clogged up the results feeds with trophies for everything.  Really diluted the excitement for a trophy.

ARoger
Pico de Orizaba

Instead of "this year" in the leaderboard, we could have "Last 12 months".

K9
Shkhara

Suggest we change the title of this thread from "Annual KOM" which was tried but had weird implementation, and universally despised to "Rolling KOM" which is something completely different.

ARoger
Pico de Orizaba

Maybe "Rolling Leaderboard"?

f1lter
Mt. Kenya

I love this idea for so many reasons. It's similar to Local Legends but honestly more meaningful and I suspect even easier to implement. Call it KOY/QOY and be done with it already! 😁 I check my yearly standings way more than my lifetime ones as I get older. Please think about implementing this!