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MattS_bsb
Elbrus
Status: Gathering Kudos

This was suggested in August of last year, but I haven't seen any further discussion or movement.  Currently, the only way to show elapsed time on something like a run, is to mark it as a "race".  The timing data is already there in the analysis portion of the activity, so it's just a matter of giving the user the option to use that vice "moving time".

Link to the original idea:

https://communityhub.strava.com/t5/strava-features-chat/give-user-option-to-show-elapsed-time-not-ra...

55 Comments
MotownMatt25
Mt. Kenya

What is the sense of having an auto pause option turned to off if it is going to calculate your "moving time" anyway?  So stupid.  Let the user decide if they want the app to use "Elapsed Time" or "Moving Time" without having to say it was a Race.  If I get caught at a light and have to wait before resuming my run then I want to count that time towards my training because it is the truth.

nlabonte
Mt. Kenya

Really disappointing that Strava has not addressed this. This issue makes the entire platform nearly unusable for me.

mike7856
Mt. Kenya

I cannot think of a single reason why moving time would ever be useful or meaningful, and it's kind of insane that the platform intentionally hides the actual data from its users.

Mazz
Shkhara

I have recently come to learn that Strava takes the GPS log and "calculates" it's own moving-time value.  This can be problematic because if you are running or biking on a trail with many street crossings you might stop your watch before you get to the intersection, slowly roll through the intersection and go a few feet before resuming your watch. 

In this scenario, one's distance increases 0, but their moving time, according to Strava, increases.  Do this a couple of times, and now you have essentially added an additional minute plus of time where you specifically chose not to capture this distance, but Strava decided to capture it as moving time.

The craziest part about this, is Strava actually does already calculate the actual distance, as seen by the "Correct distance" option Strava offers on the computer, which seems to add back some distance.  So please either also include the extra distance that was acquired while the watch was stopped (i.e. if you are going to add time for time the watch was stopped but the person was moving, also add the distance they covered), or give us the option to opt out.  I want to be able to compare future exercises bouts to when I was actually moving and not have time times be drastically changed based on my luck with street crossings.

Added bonus, if you opt out of Strava's calculations, you will probably save a lot of money in "compute" resources, if you have many users opting out.

tl;dr fix the bug where you only add time but not distance or let users opt out of your algo and have their log get uploaded directly.

jackneus
Mt. Kenya

There have been many posts here talking about how Strava uses Moving Time and not Elapsed Time for runs / calculating splits.

Frequently on alpine runs or scrambles you have miles that are highly technical and can take 40+ minutes (sometimes more than 90!). Strava does some opaque calculations to determine moving time and spits out mile split data that is essentially useless (if I am scrambling a 1-mile technical face that takes 40 minutes, it might calculate a 12 minute mile and say it was a 6:30/ GAP -- at no point in that scramble did I put in a 6:30/ effort).

I know that you can designate something as "race" to use elapsed time, but since I post my runs I don't want to designate something that is not a race as a "race". Would it be possible to add a checkbox that allows users to say "use elapsed time as moving time"?

JacoXL
Mt. Kenya

this feature would allow you to select between ride time and total time. the use case would be when you are doing a ride and have to stop at traffic lights or for a nature break. as this is currently adding to the total ride time it affects your Average speed or pace and other performance-related metrics. you might also have a scenario where you did a ride to a coffee shop and spent some time there, even though the average pace to and from was high, due to the Stop in between the Pace is once again affected. having the ability to select between total time and moving time would mitigate this and accurately represent your training affect and impact.

KevinT3141
Mt. Kenya

I do a lot of maintenance work on my local MTB trails, and track these activities as hikes. Showing my 'moving time' is completely useless to me, as shuffling along with a brush trimmer rarely registers as movement. I try to use my Strava log to see how long past work took me as a future planning aid, and having to jump through extra hoops just to figure out how long I spent on a session is painful and extremely time consuming. Why not just display both times, so whether I want to see my moving time on rides or elapsed time on work sessions, I can just look at the number that means the most to me without having to tweak anything while recording or after the fact.

MarkHemmings
Mt. Kenya

Strava completely disrespects ultra runners, who want to record breaks for long run, non-race training sessions. Strava forces us to lie about our run by labelling it a Race, or the opposite, showcase to the public a completely fabricated and useless Moving Time that is also a lie. 

MotownMatt25
Mt. Kenya

I've noticed on the app of my phone I can see both the paces but I would much rather have the option or not have to save it as a race to see the true number.

Conrad
Mt. Kenya

Yes please I too need that option.. I do some activities with constant effort while not moving a lot the time : paragliding training on the ground..

thx, please