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Different bikerides (Ride, Mountain bike Ride and Gravel) Segments

  • August 26, 2024
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pellech
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If i Ride up a dirt road with my bike and register it as an Ride, will it be on the same segments on that road that if I had registered it as a gravel ride or a mountainbike ride? Or is it different segments for all 3?

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These three sport types all share the same segments and using the same leaderboards.

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  • August 26, 2024

These three sport types all share the same segments and using the same leaderboards.


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  • August 27, 2024

Thanks, that good to hear 🙂


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  • March 16, 2025

In my opinion, these should be separate leaderboards, or at least be separable with the click of a sort button, just like male and female riders can be separated. 
 

It’s frustrating that these are the same segments when mountain bikes are so much slower than gravel/road going up. But yet alpine ski and snowboard segments are completely separate segments, so I can’t see how me and my friend compare going down the same run next to each other. Looking for at least some consistency, at most all leaderboards should be separable into like sports.


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​@Jerm - If mountain bike, gravel bike, etc… were separate sports to start with, it would be easy for them to have their own segments.  But since they were split out as sub-activities within the larger “ride” sport type WAY after people had been logging all of them as just a “ride”, it is impossible to separate them now.  The leaderboards would be meaningless.  Only a fraction of people actually categorize their rides down past just a “ride” no matter what type of bike they are using.  Old files would not include the separation, so those would end up mis-categorized.  Not to mention, these days, it is hard to really tell the difference between what is a “grave bike” or a “mountain bike” or even a “road bike”.  There is so much blurring of the lines between them that trying to officially separate them would be almost impossible.  


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Arrr there are still a huge difference between a MTB and a gravel/racebike. Its almost impossible to take the KOM, when others are on a gravelbike and you have the KOM on a MTB segment. But it can’t be made as a MTB segment, only a RIDE segment. And yes people do not categorize their rides. Some rides are on a E bike, some in a car. Flag Flag Flag. The motivation is lost, for those who take a huge pleasure in competing with friends and then a guy take the KOM on a racingbike. If it could, categorize it. But you are right. Its a mix over the years. Who to separate and check this?


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​@kajaktosse - Part of the challenge with segments is picking the correct equipment for the specific surface type or the right time of day or time of year.  If you want to try for a KOM on a road, a MTB isn’t going to be the best tool.  Sometimes it is a seasonal thing too.  There are lots of segments that are easier in the winter on a fat bike than they are in the summer on a MTB.  Others are the other way around.  E-bikes and cars are a totally different subject since they are not allowed in regular “ride” segments anyway and should be flagged.  

Personally, I understand that some segments are not possible for me to compete on because I don’t have the right type of bike for it.  I am not going to complain that they need to make a different category just so I have a chance.  If I want to compete for that segment, I need to up my game, not change the game.  


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