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Running downhill live segments

  • November 1, 2025
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Silentvoyager
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Let’s consider the following two fairly popular segments in my area - they are the same segment but in opposite directions:

 

 

Even though these segments are on literally the same trail that crosses the hill, one of them can be synced as a live segment and another one can’t. Both of them contain both uphill and downhill sections, but the two ends of the trails are at slightly different elevations, so it ends up having a bit more climbing than descending in one direction than in another.

Do you think that it is arbitrary that Strava allows one of these two segments to be synced but not another? Does it even make sense to apply this limitation to running segments?

To give you another extreme example, here is what Strava considers to be a flat segment and allows it to be synced to my running watch - this literally goes over 3 mountain summits and back down. And it totally should be allowed - that what’s makes segments so great for trail running where the terrain is inevitably mixed.
 

But what is unreasonable is that this too would be arbitrary called either uphill or downhill segments depending on relative elevations of the segment start and end.
 

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Jana_S
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  • November 10, 2025

Agreed, the logic isn't great. I can see why Strava wants to discourage people from peeking at the screen while running down a hill, but the implementation is poor. 
If I wanted to get around this limitation, I’d probably create several shorter segments on that same route, though it's cumbersome. But well, it's probably the only way unless Strava changes how the downhill parts of a run are determined. 


Silentvoyager
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  • November 10, 2025

Breaking longer segments into shorter segments is a poor solution. If anything I'd like to see even better support for longer segments because they often map to logical community established routes like FKTs, or trailhead to trailhead trails. Short segments in the middle of nowhere with no logical start or finish have absolutely zero appeal. I think a good support for longer segments that can be done as virtual races would greatly increase appeal of segments. Many people don't like short sprint like segments because they have zero chance of competing on them. But longer segments favor endurance over pure strength, so these segments give older athletes a fighting chance. And if we are talking about trail running on variable terrain, having some downhill sections is inevitable.


Jana_S
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  • November 11, 2025

I completely agree that the workaround isn't optimal, I too prefer long segments - but also combine both long and short: e.g my favourite 5k trail loop is one long segment, but also includes shorter ones for particular climbs etc. 

Anyway, maybe this topic would be worth converting into an “idea”? So that there's a chance that it gets attention of Strava product managers (though I admit I’m not sure whether they read/consider the ideas…)


Jan_Mantau
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  • November 11, 2025

I don’t think an idea would be of any use. The ban on overall downhill live segments were for legal responsibility reasons and that won’t change because other segments with only some downhill portion are still allowed.


Jana_S
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  • November 11, 2025

@Jan_Mantau I understand and kinda agree with the reasoning, I mean the poor implementation, which is only taking into account the starting minus ending point elevation, not the actual decline of the path.