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It seems Strava has switched the route builder to a new version.  I believe they have been testing this for awhile, as I've seen it here and there, but it seems over the last few days they've moved over to using it when you click the Create New Route button on the My Routes page.

There's some major problems when it comes to creating and editing waypoints, specifically around how it handles when you have an existing route but want to add a waypoint in the middle.  In the old system you could move your mouse along the line, and then click and drag the line to move it.  It'd intelligently add a waypoint in between existing ones.  But in the new system this rarely works properly.  I've seen some real strange things just playing with it, including invisible points in the middle of nowhere -- if you move the mouse along the elevation chart at the bottom, it'll float between these without actually following the line.   It's incredibly frustrating.  I hope the old route builder comes back, or a way to switch between the old and new system while they work out the bugs...

 

I noticed the "new" route planner yesterday as well ... before it was only in the "Heatmap View" available, but now it seems they are using the same for planning a route. Which absolutley su##s! Beside of your described bugs it seems the Veloviewer plugin also does not work anymore - and therefore this route planner is getting for me more and more unusable. And as of now the route planner was the only feature for me to keep my payed membership. If they don't fix that I assume I finally will get a basic member looking for another route planner!

I see the same broken behaviour, dragging outside of existing waypoints creates artifacts or doesn't do anything, dragging existing waypoints copies them instead of moving them and the undo button will not be enabled after such an action.

glad you mentioned Veloviewer... the Wandrer.earth extension is broken as well 😒

Came here to chime in on the route builder that keeps going downhill. For me too, this is the one feature I still have premium for, but every update it's just getting worse and I've already found myself returning to other tools. I'm a heavy user of (personal) heatmaps, and while the number of useless clicks seem to have increased, several functionalities are lost on the website...

-The ability to see personal "ALL RUN" or "all sports" heatmaps while editing (trail run and regular run on seperate heatmaps why?).

-The options to remove "points of interest" seems to be gone. I now have to constantly pay attention that I avoid clicking on other people's pictures in the map.

@Dim The option to remove pictures and POIs is hidden behind this nondescript button I marked yellow:

This would be better as direct visible text in the sidebar, but as others remarked, the UX of the route builder is not very well thought out.

Re: adding a new waypoint by clicking on the line and dragging -- it seems it works better now if you click on the line (not drag) and then select "insert waypoint" from this pop up menu.   THEN drag that new one that appears.

 

Hey @danf879, Nick here from the Strava Web team. Thanks for taking the time to write in about the issues you're having with the new builder. Just to be sure I understand, are you having issues inserting waypoints (via click or click and drag) or are you expecting waypoints to appear on the route but they are not? 

In this screenshot, is this a route you'd previously created and are now loading again in the builder? if it's a public route, would you mind linking it here so we can take a look. Looking forward to getting to the bottom of this, and thanks again for writing in. 

Hi Nick-
Thanks for responding.  I don't believe it's map specific -- I was able to recreate it on a new map, but unfortunately I couldn't tell you what triggers it.  It may be related to the velocity of the click + drag, or if you drag to an area that's unmappable?  I was able to capture an animation:

In better news, the Wandrer.earth plugin is working again!

Just build a route and then try to change the route by dragging the route line to a different road. 

 

It's completely impossible now.

Yep, very disappointed too. Had only recently started using this to plan "titling adventures" and now it's gone. Perhaps the only reason I needed to pay for Strava? Maybe time to look elsewhere. Does any other app support Veloviewer for planning routes based on tiles?

Emailed veloviewer and got this back;

Hi Geoff

 
Thanks for the email. I've pushed out an update (V1.43). Just waiting for Google to release it. Can be a few hours, can be a day or two. No idea why it takes so long unless they have someone manually checking these things.
 
Hopefully it'll be updated and working by the morning 🤞

Ben Lowe
VeloViewer.com

Also having several issues previously mentioned with this new route builder. Attempted using this fix and encountered a new bug, the route was split in half where the waypoint was moved and an invisible line remained as part of the route from the original points, see photo below as an example. Clearly the new route building features need some major changes before this new version is useful, Strava should revert back to the previous version until this is ready.

 

Veloviewer plugin has been published (1.43) and all now seems to be OK.

Hey Dan,

I had the same issues, but since thursday the problem seems to be resolved!

It does seem to be working better today for me.. at least, I can't reproduce the problem I showed in the animation above... maybe they fixed something??  

Hi everyone - thanks for sending in these examples. We did push an update to solve some of the issues with click & drag behavior. Are any of you still seeing issues?

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