Auto Flagging Too Sensitive

Nice examples and “too sensitive” describes this silly bug even a bit too generous.  28 km/h downhill and 18 km/h on a flat segment are excluded from leaderboards? That’s just ridiculous.

It happens to me too. On the ride I go to, I notice that about a third of all riders got their activity flagged. This is beyond ridiculous.

The other riders seem to be able to unflag their activities. On my side, I have not been able to unflag my latest activity, no matter what I tried.

I always hate when I look back later and realized I made a typo in the subject title.  Oops.  Just scrolled past it and something didn’t look right.  Oh well, it won’t let me edit the title so it will have to remain.  I’m not that “sesnitive” about these things 🤣

Hi ​@anchskier, appreciate the feedback on the flagging system. I’ve taken note of this thread and the feedback in it and have shared it with the appropriate product team. 

(I also went ahead and updated the title!) 

I'm noticing ebike tagged activities with the opposite issue, namely they are not being autoflagged, when it's obviously not been ridden on an ebike that complies with UK road law and is getting motor assistance above ~15.5mph or 25kph.

For example, a rider in my area boasted that his new ebike was chipped to get motor assistance to 20mph on its first activity a few years ago.

Yesterday, this rider went up a 1.25 mile climb (Beeches Hill, Bishop's Waltham, Hampshire UK) that averages 3.8%, but starts very gently at an average speed of 19.6mph for 3mins50secs, absolute nonsense!

Above 15.5mph, all the speed should be from the power generated by the rider and none by the ebike motor, he's on an ebike MTB that weighs at least ~23Kg+ and yet he would easily get top 10 for the normal road bike leaderboard with yesterday's effort against local "aliens" on bikes weighing ~8Kg!

He's just one ebike rider among 10+ riders I've spotted in Hampshire making a mockery of ebike leaderboards on public roads, getting motor assistance way above the UK legal limit of 15.5mph (usually around 20mph).

I'm trying to clean up the Hampshire ebike public road leaderboards, I've aware of the 10 flag limit per 24 hours, but unusually I've had a yellow banner appear that tells me I do not have permission to flag activity despite my last flag being more than 24 hours ago.

​@NOTG There are many countries were ebikes are allowed to have motor support above 25 kph. The Strava rules only state that motorcycles must not use the ebike sport type.

Hi ​@Marya ! Had the same issue of normal ride being considered e-bike, and so did friends. As this seems to be happening all-over, any chance our rides can be “revalidated”? Performances were nothing crazy. Who cam we contact to correct this?

Can you point me to Stava rules that say an ebike ride should not be flagged, when displaying signs of motor assistance above the country’s road legal limit of 25kph, please?

This thread is about auto flagging, not about what you may or may not flag manually. Strava uses the same rules for auto flagging everywhere on the world and independent on each country’s laws.

One of my runs

 has been incorrectly flagged twice. 

Looked through the data and it seems okay. I wasn't running fast and didn't win any segments, so guessed this was auto-flagged and wondering why?

Hi ​@Marya - I can't begin to describe how angry this stupid AI ride categorization made my entire group.  We belong to Trek Ballston group in Arlington VA, and we ride the same hills every Wednesday evening from March to October. We are all experienced and strong road cyclists and recently all of our rides started to get categorized as e-bike rides. We work really hard and push ourselves at every ride to beat our previous achievements only to find that now all of our segments and efforts are being disqualified. Why doesn't that stupid AI engine first asks Strava's different AI engine that clearly tells us that it was our typical ride given the distance, elevation, speed, and power profiles. 

What the heck? Very demotivating and demoralizing. Something none of us expected from Strava, which always was a source of motivation for everyone. 

​@Marya - this is total BS.  Fix your auto flagging system or lose another subscriber!  
 

Just had another race auto flagged.  This time, it doesn’t give any way to let me remove the flag to indicate that it was a ride.  My only option is to submit to Strava support for their review which, as we know, will take weeks for you to get to.  At least before, it gave an option for me to confirm that it was a regular ride, but it doesn’t do that now.  These rides are not anything outside of the norm for me or those I race against.  

https://www.strava.com/activities/16112414314
 

I am also getting really annoyed with this auto-flag "feature"- nearly every time i am doing a hilly ride with low average speed I am getting auto-flagged, probably because my climbing performances are above average, though far from KOM or pro-level. The method used needs to be more fine-tuned or changed completely. This problem is making my strava experience much less enjoyable and really disappointing, especially as a paying customer.