What to Expect as FATMAP Transitions to Strava

Such a shame that Strava bought Fatmap. Fatmap will always be a better mapping tool that Strava could ever be.

Have a look at Skimomap

Very much in development, but I think might have some potential

As I don’t pay for Strava, (I will come back to that), it’s not possible to see what benefit I’d get from redeeming the “voucher”. Judging from all of the conversation I have been able to find on line, very little of FATMAP’s useful features have been or will be replicated. This is not only disappointing, it is actually dangerous. I am not a pro, nor can I afford to take a guide with me in all situations. So the safe route planning features of FATMAP became invaluable to me. And the pricing, even though I would use the app occasionally through the year still seemed a reasonable proposition. Of course this is not the case and I’ll go back to planning on 2d paper using my intelligence and experience to minimise risk. It will take longer, will not be as safe, but it’s what I have.

I have been a long time user of Strava’s cycling and running features, and they are good. Mainly I’ve enjoyed posting routes with photographs and sharing that experience with followers around the world. In turn I have enjoyed seeing the activities enjoyed by many others around the world. I may have been interested at times in some of the subscription features, but always recall the times when Strava has moved features that were, useful and popular behind the paywall. I understand it’s a business, but frankly I am not interested in paying for entertainment. There are a gazillion ways I could do that without substance or genuine rewards. So when strava decided I had to pay to create segments for them, I declined and removed all the segments I’d created for other people in the community. Yeah do don’t get my input for free.

For the last three weeks or so I have been testing whether I can manage without Strava all together. I’ve actually enjoyed rides where I didnt have to race, or post process. It’s not like I need to prove anything, but I will miss contact with the friends I have made (and will never meet) on Strava. 

We live in a natural world. Everything we create is subject to entropy. Left unattended all will collapse and return to a stable state. This is as true of our virtual world as it is true of me an aging yet still active human being.

I leave with this final note. To those employees at FATMAP good luck. Progress always comes at the expense of some disruption. Thank you for creating something good, that made life safer for many skiers and mountaineers. I hope you wont pursue careers at Strava, you already probably presume as much yourselves. If you can once again provide a service that is not only ‘fun’ but valuable please exercise your skills and the FATMAP community will be grateful. 

Now where do I get my refund 🤣

You're right
I subscribe all you said.

Dear Orphans of FatMap,
it was a pleasure to chat with you all.
Hoping we can chat again into another platform, a new born again FatMap.
Thanks to all FatMap developers.

Such a poor show from Strava, buy fatmap close fatmap leave us in limbo without an alternative for the forthcoming winter 🤨🤨🤨

They've done it...

Fatmap is dead and strava has ABSOLUTELY NONE of the fatmap features.
I was hoping until today they would keep fatmap online past the deadline because they were not able to upgrade strava in time...but i was wrong.

Such a shame. Sad world we live in.

Yeah I have same problem! Why are they destroying fatmap??? It isn't the same thing at all as strava. This is terrible for backcountry users

SLOPE ANGLE SHADING PLEASE

Where is the Winter 3D Map with offline download of the map, i can't find it. Fatmap says that the maps are now in strava ?

To summarize:

-imported fatmaps 3D landscape, but now its way clunkier, harder to use, and only available in summer filter

-so latent, cluttered and poor that its impossible to use on mobile, and no longer worth using on desktop

-deleted EVERY unique fatmap feature without an alternative: avalanche shading, slope shading, distance grids, ski resort maps, elevation shading, flat shading. 

-no community route descriptions 

-no highlighting of FSR roads

I didn't think it was physically possible to be so unprepared and do such a bad job.

I have already terminated my strava membership as a result. Bye!

TLDR: Strava has made fatmaps 3D map worse, and deleted ever other feature.

It is unfortunate that capitalism has once again become the most important aspect in this deal. Or at least that's what it looks like. All the great features of FATMAP has been left behind. The merger and payouts were more important than the product for the consumers. FATMAP was used by outdoor enthusiasts to help provide BETA on their outdoor activities. It was game changing for ski touring and now we have no access to the wonderful mapping that helped keep a lot of us safe in the backcountry. Obviously, we can all go back to exploring without this technology and I'm sure it will be fine. But the benefit of our technology-heavy world is that we can develop these apps to assist. I can't really understand why it was taken away. Would have been nice to see the FATMAP app continued until all features were brought to the Strava app. But of course, who cares about community advocacy when you can more millions! 

Hahaha you don’t believe Strava do you? FATMAP is dead and buried along with 99% of its useful features. 

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Why did Strava acquire Fatmap if they were just going to drop Fatmap's standout mapping features? By that I mean its winter alpine features: winter satellite imagery, slope angle, and avalanche hazard layers.

I was so happy to have a Strava subscription that included FATMAP access, and it was why I got a membership in the first place... Strava without the FATMAP features is simply not worth it, and I will be ending my subscription feeling skimped. Why FATMAP has been shut down while the mapping features are being "integrated" into Strava (losing hope here) makes no sense. The countless features that we used to plan trips will be sorely missed, and IF they are integrated to include more than a useless flyover maybe I'll come back. I'll be on CalTopo or Gaia until then. Disappointed to say the least. 

I'm a Mountain Guide here in Italy. I did the same, I paid a Strava Subscription to get fatmap features inside Strava the 1st October and...nothing!! Very hangry.

The developers may have made a wedge out of the sale but it must be gutting to just have the thing they've created so brilliantly over the years, just binned with nothing to show for it all. Especially when so many people loved and relied on it.

Surely, they'll look at doing something again in a few years once any Stasi, sorry, STRAVA restrictions have elapsed?

On LinkedIn it looks like they work for Strava Main product now. So idk. 😑

Good by FatMap, we will miss you.
Adieu, Adiòs, Auf Wiedersehen, Addio, さようなら, 再见, مع السلامة, Aloha, Slán, Bless, vale, Αντίο, Adjø, Adeus, La revedere, पुनर्दर्शनाय, अलविदा, Tupananchikkama, Tofa, Kwaheri, குட்பை, ลาก่อน, རྗེས་སུ་མཇལ་ཡོང, Güle güle, до побачення, Búcsú, Hamba kahle ...
... and in all the languages ​​of the world.

Hi all, my friends.
I'll wait few days before closing my Strava account, just to be able to reply or post new messages.

Hi all Orphans of FatMap.
This post has been submitted just to report that Strava officially removed some of my posts (Lola (Help Center)).
Strava is also this.
So I encourage again all users worldwide to close their Strava's account.
This is the only way to block Strava's revenues and bring it to default in consequence of killing FatMap.

Note: probably Strava will remove this post too.

Fatmap user base is nothing compared to strava's one...Far more runnners/cyclists who don't care about terrain

errr I now have a zip file of data on my mobile device. How do I upload this to Strava? And I see no winter maps visible on Strava? Please help!

Strava people watching this thread—please respond to us with actual information about this issue and be honest.  We're not asking for trade secrets here.  Your boilerplate corporate responses about this issue are embarrassing.  I've been with you a long time and it is such a bummer to see you suck this bad.  I just want to know if there's a chance of getting route planning and map explore features back which are critical for assessing terrain.  If you really don't know, say that.  If you're scrapping Fatmap, say that.  It is not that hard—the user group that cares is already furious at you.  Redeem yourself by leveling with us.   

Stop propagating this boilerplate response—it tells us nothing.  Give a real answer.