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Hello Community Members, 


We are here to let you know what to expect as FATMAP transitions to Strava. 

FATMAP and Strava joined forces in January 2023 to make outdoor experiences more accessible. Over the next several months, FATMAP's 3D maps and other features will be built into Strava to create the world’s best platform for planning, navigating, and sharing outdoor adventures with the largest global community of active people.

As we move towards this joint mission, we will retire the FATMAP app and website on October 1, 2024. Until then, you’ll be able to use all the FATMAP features you currently enjoy. After October 1, several FATMAP features will be available in Strava, and the FATMAP app and website will no longer be available.


FATMAP users who wish to transfer their routes or receive copies of their adventures, routes, waypoints, photos, and guidebooks should follow the steps outlined here by October 1st. 

We know you may have questions about this, please read below and let us know if there is anything else we can help you with.....


When will this happen?
FATMAP will be discontinued on October 1st, and you will no longer be able to use the FATMAP app and website. Please make sure that you have downloaded your account data by this date if you wish to keep a copy.


Are you going to maintain the current app until October 1st?
Yes, the current FATMAP app will remain available until October 1st. 


Will the FATMAP app remain on my device after October 1st?
The app will remain on your device until you delete it, but it will no longer be usable after October 1st.


Which FATMAP features will be built into Strava?
Bringing mapping technology from FATMAP to Strava continues to be a key priority for us. FATMAP's 3D map is already visible in Strava's Flyover feature, and now includes the ability to pause and modify flight speed. You can also see FATMAP's 3D map images in the Strava feed. 


As we look ahead, we are in the process of integrating FATMAPs 3D map, including winter satellite maps and terrain tools, into other map screens within the Strava app and website.


In addition, FATMAP route content, excluding user generated content, will be moved to Strava. We are currently working on the new home for these routes so they can be used seamlessly within the Strava app. Please note that you can also proactively transfer your routes on FATMAP to Strava before October 1st using our data tool here, which we encourage you to do. 


We appreciate that many of you use certain FATMAP features that will not be available in Strava in time for the coming northern hemisphere winter. This includes waypoints, personal guidebooks, national topo maps (including IGN and OS maps), offline map downloads of the FATMAP map and live snow and piste information. We are exploring adding these and similar features to Strava in the future. 


Will I be able to transfer my Routes to Strava?
You can transfer your Routes to Strava using the data tool here. You can find information on how to access your Routes on the Strava website here and in the app here. Please note that only the route title, description, and route line can be transferred to Strava. If you wish to keep other information about the route, such as assigned grades and photos, please export it as well. 


Your Adventures, Guidebooks, and Waypoints can not be transferred to Strava; please use the tool here to download them.


Strava is headquartered in San Francisco, California, and our services are provided to you by Strava Inc. By using Strava Services, you consent to your data being processed in the U.S.


Do I need to transfer my Routes to Strava to use the Strava subscription voucher?
You can use the Strava subscription voucher without transferring your Routes to Strava. If you choose to transfer your data to Strava, you consent to your data being transferred from FATMAP to Strava Inc. For more information regarding Strava's data processing practices and your rights, please see our Privacy Policy. 


Whether you transfer your routes to Strava or not, we recommend you export all your account data before the October 1st deadline. After October 1st, this data will be permanently deleted.

Can I download a map to use offline in the Strava app?
Yes, you can download and follow a route offline on Strava. Instructions for making a route available offline here and for following it in the app here. You can also export a route to your GPS device or export the GPX file.

How do I export my account data?
You can export your account data here. 
We recommend you export all your account data before the October 1st deadline. After October 1st, this data will be permanently deleted. Please note that only Routes you created yourself are exported. Routes created by other people and saved in your guidebooks will NOT be in your data export. If you wish to save these routes and you have an Explore subscription, you can export the gpx file from FATMAP as described here.


I have already exported my account data, but I want to continue using the FATMAP app. How can I make sure I do not lose any data?
You can export your account data multiple times, though no more than once per day. We recommend keeping the downloaded data you already have as a backup and then repeating the export process once you have finished adding any new routes, adventures, waypoints, and guidebooks to your FATMAP account. Please note that you will no longer be able to export your data after the October 1st shutdown, so it is important that you make your final export by this deadline.


How do I delete my FATMAP Account?
You can delete your account either via our mobile app or our website. Once you have deleted your account, you cannot retrieve your data. You can export your account data and delete your account here. If you wish to delete your account without exporting your data, you can also do that via the Settings menu in the mobile app, following these steps: Profile tab > three lines top right > Settings > My Account > Delete account. 


Please note that after October 1st, all user account data will be permanently deleted; please make sure you export your data before then.


I have migrated my Routes to Strava but want to continue using the FATMAP app. How do I proceed?
You can migrate your Routes to Strava multiple times, but not more than once per day. Routes that have already been migrated will not be duplicated. After October 1st, you can no longer use the FATMAP app.


I have a FATMAP Explore membership with my Strava subscription; what will happen to my Explore access after October 1st?
You will continue to enjoy certain FATMAP features on Strava. Your access to the FATMAP app and website will end on October 1st.


Will my Explore privileges remain valid after October 1st?
No, please collect your codes here and use them before October 1st. Strava offers some brand discounts via Challenges, and you can find out more about them here.

What will happen to my FATMAP Explore subscription after October 1st?
If your current subscription does not include Strava, we will provide you with a 6-month Strava subscription voucher so you can continue to enjoy certain FATMAP features on Strava. If the subscription period for which you have paid has not yet expired, you are also eligible for a prorated refund. In this case, please send us a message at explore@fatmap.com. 

How do I get a refund?
If you do not wish to avail of the voucher offering for a Strava subscription and your current subscription period on FATMAP has not yet expired, you are eligible for a prorated refund. Please send your refund request to explore@fatmap.com.

I have a Pro account with FATMAP. Will I get the same access in Strava?
Our Pro Access program will not continue, however you may be eligible for a Strava Pro Badge. You can find out more and apply here.

Please let us know if you have any additional questions. If there is a feature on FATMAP that you would like to see on Strava, please add that to our Ideas Board here.


We welcome your feedback regarding this update and ask that you keep on topic and abide by our Community Guidelines.

Not always the case.
I'm a MTB enthusiast and used Fatmap (and other platforms) when planning my off-road tours. It was very useful to check the slopes of the mountainsides to validate the routes.
It was extremely useful during the tours to evaluate route changes and ride safely as well.

I'm afraid they can't do that. They need to keep their jobs.

I am hopeful. Of course, not in Strava—the acquisition happened in January 2023, meaning it will be two years coming into this winter season and they managed to implement ZERO useful features. But I am hopeful in other teams working day and night to provide people with tools that make our life in the mountains easier—Contours, 3D Reality Maps, Relief Maps, and others. Give them a try; a lot of them saw what happened with FATMAP and are jumping on the opportunity.

I will leave with a personal anecdote. Having lived in SF, I personally know some people who are working or have worked at Strava. In my opinion, the company is not exactly a bastion of product innovation, and the culture seems allergic to the idea of rapid and effective product development. Take, for instance, their recent "big" feature: the ability to hide start times. Groundbreaking, right? But hey, what do you expect from a place where employees have unlimited PTO? While it might be a dream to work at Strava, being a customer is a whole different story.

There's a saying, "innovate or die," and if Strava doesn't pick up the pace, they might find themselves closer to the latter.

No way, no answer.
They have no intention of giving answers.
They simply delete the most inconvenient posts.

By way of feedback, I subscribed to Strava Premium predominantly for the access to Fatmap features (in particular offline mapping in different formats, gradient/ avalanche overlays and user ski route content). It is good to hear that the plan is to migrate most of these features to Strava, but few have made it so far.

I don't really understand why the decision has been taken to end Fatmap before giving yourselves the time complete the migration but, in case it is not obvious, without these features users like myself are going to have to seek alternative services to fill this gap which, for me at least, then throws into question the value of my Strava subscription.

Overall I'm a big fan of Strava - there are some quirks but your mapping (and heat mapping) is excellent and it is great to keep all my route planning / outing logging in one place so please hurry in your migration and be clear/upfront about any features that are not going to be migrated across.

The backcountry skiing community is very loyal to the tools we use. There is just over a month left before the snow season starts in the Northern Hemisphere, and if users like me have to look for an alternative to FatMap for this snow season, I doubt we will return to Strava later. I have been a long-time subscriber to both Strava and FatMap, but now due to Strava's silence, I am starting to consider migrating to Gaia GPS or Caltopo... I hope Strava provides some brief information, as the climbing and backcountry skiing community deserves respect.
Cheers.

Dear Community,

I am an ex-user of FATMAP. My beloved planning tool has now supposedly been integrated in Strava. However, I cannot find the FATMAP map anywhere, nor all the other features.

Do you know when the FATMAP features are going to be available on Strava?

Thank you very much in advance!

Best,

Luca

I wonder what motivation there is amongst the orphans to reproduce FATMAP ourselves? I would be sure the skills exist and that organisation would be needed, but I suspect it is not impossible.

Boo Strava.. Fatmap was such a great tool. RIP. Strava you suck.

Hi, @lukesilver 
Believe me, the answer is simply "never".
This because FatMap and Strava have too different scopes, and integrating FatMap into Strava have no sense.

Shame on you for removing one of the best apps ever created. You promised to integrate FATMAP's features into Strava but have blatantly failed to deliver on that promise.

Why are some posts getting deleted? You've deleted FATMAP before building several important features into the Strava maps which kept people safe, and now when people recommend alternatives you delete their posts?  

Don’t worry, those deleted posts will also be migrated to the new Strava with all the FATMAP features… 🤣

 

Zero chance of that ever happening 

I just went to check your strava app... There is almost nothing of what we love about fatmat that has been migrated... Why shut it down now? I feel so sad to lose my fatmap companion for hiking today ! I think most fatmap users will like me just be disgusted and not at all move to your app.

Shame

Totally agree with all the Fatmap comments - the main reason I subscribed to Strave was to keep the Fatmap maps and features.  Perhaps Strava would care to update us as to why the promised Fatmap intergration has not happened...?

I have to say I don't see that - FatMAP was very much an extension of Strava functions for me around planning/tracking/reviewing outdoor adventures. FatMAP brought much more navigation / mountain functionality to the table, but I used both for planning running / hiking / cycling and skiing activities. I have to say I'm genuinely confused about why Strava acquired FatMAP at this point. I assumed that the point of that acquisition was to gain access to those features. I don't really see what the benefit is to them in them just binning it.

The loss of FATMAP has led to me having to pay a more expensive subscription to Strava.  However, the promise of a transition to FATMAP features in Strava is not happening.  The main items I have used extensively in the past and find most helpful are navigation and mountain-user features such as National topographic map layers for UK and EU countries, avalanche forecast, and slope angle/aspect layers, as well as waypoints.  There is no sign of any of these yet - do you have an expected date for the return of these?

Many thanks,

Matt

Hi,

2 month later… any news?

​@Scout any news? 

The frustration runs high in Fatmap users who are already gutted to have seen their app swollen by strava. But why is the latter completely silent and not answering to any of the previous thread about fatmap’s integration? Will a mod ever let the community know what’s up? Did strava spent all that money just to kill the app? 

Thank you, Strava, you made it really easy for me. Those €49.99 a year will now go to GaiaGPS.
I had my doubts, but given your total disregard for the Fatmap and backcountry ski community, you’ve made the decision very easy. Thank you again.

The frustration runs high in Fatmap users who are already gutted to have seen their app swollen by strava. But why is the latter completely silent and not answering to any of the previous thread about fatmap’s integration? Will a mod ever let the community know what’s up? Did strava spent all that money just to kill the app? 

If you kill the competence, you don’t have to improve anything. Money talks. Well played, Strava… well played.

So here I am (out of the loop apparently) ready to start planning my yearly trip, type in www.fatmap.com and boom, nothing. I go to Strava and search the app and web version and none of the features that made it useful for backcountry skiing are there.

I really don't understand what the leadership at Strava is doing right now. Y'all need re-evaluate what made you popular, restricting the API usage and this are both HUGE missteps. After nearly a decade of loyalty and the pain to think about all the recorded activities to lose, I find myself researching replacement apps. 

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