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Strava shows incorrect moving time

Mayday_qq
Mt. Kenya

My Garmin device shows different elapsed time and moving time for my indoor activities, but Strava shows the same elapsed time and moving time. That's annoying. I'd like to have the actual moving time shown on strava. 

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Scout
Moderator Moderator
Moderator

Hey @Mayday_qq
Thanks for your post. We are two separate platforms with different calculations so certain aspects of your activity analysis may be different. In general, this is because Strava is more strict about resting time so we remove less of it than Garmin Connect. In other words, we're a bit more likely to consider you moving in places where Garmin considers you stopped. This means that even though the elapsed time is the same, the moving time can be a bit different, which can cause differences in average speed. Strava typically reports a bit more moving time and so a bit slower average speed.
 
We feel confident that we are accurately representing your data, but are always working on improving our calculations and appreciate your feedback. You may want to search our support site for more information and discussions on this topic.


Cheers,
Scout (she/her)
STRAVA | Community Hub Team

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Jan_Mantau
Sajama

There are clearly bugs involved in Stravas own calculation of the moving time. When the complete ride shows the same elapsed time as moving time but in specific segments Strava shows the moving time as lower than the elapsed time, Strava has contradicted itself successfully.

Bikej
Shkhara

Same problem. Since some time Strava does not respect moving time from Garmin and adds plenty of seconds which is bad for average speed for cycling activities. Every ride (since few weeks) Strava moving time is much longer than Garmin says.  It's a bug for me.

Vaviatrix
Mt. Kenya

Totally agree, this feels like misrepresentation! I’ve only just noticed this and wonder how long it has been going on for?

Rogier
Pico de Orizaba

Makes sense that Strava recalculates moving time from the raw GPS data. If it wouldn't, you could never compare moving times calculated by different devices that all use different proprietory algorithms and speed cutoffs.

Scout
Moderator Moderator
Moderator

Hey @Mayday_qq
Thanks for your post. We are two separate platforms with different calculations so certain aspects of your activity analysis may be different. In general, this is because Strava is more strict about resting time so we remove less of it than Garmin Connect. In other words, we're a bit more likely to consider you moving in places where Garmin considers you stopped. This means that even though the elapsed time is the same, the moving time can be a bit different, which can cause differences in average speed. Strava typically reports a bit more moving time and so a bit slower average speed.
 
We feel confident that we are accurately representing your data, but are always working on improving our calculations and appreciate your feedback. You may want to search our support site for more information and discussions on this topic.


Cheers,
Scout (she/her)
STRAVA | Community Hub Team

This is all well and good except you are miscalculating our performance. Yesterday I was on a ride with a friend which I led. We stopped at the exact same times for the same amount of time. We both finished with near identical stats on our devices. Yet his mph on Strava using wahoo was higher than mine using Garmin. We both use speed sensors. I would revisit your programming. The discrepancies are why I no longer subscribe to Strava. 

I've noticed this as well. For example I did a ride. Garmin Edge 130 Plus shows a distance of 13.98 km travelled, a total time of 34:42 with an average speed of 24.2km/hr. 

The data uploads to Strava and somehow converts to 13.97km travelled, moving time of 35:04(not to elapsed time) and an average speed of 23.9km/hr. 

 

Why not just take the data exactly as it uploads from Garmin(or Wahoo, Coospo, whatever)? I'm not recording directly to Strava so why should my data be different? 

This is not an acceptable response - Strava clearly has a bug that you are not addressing. I know the elapsed time of my workout - it is the time I was doing the workout and not paused. This shows up correctly in Garmin Connect. When the workout is uploaded to Strava, however, Strava ignores this good data and comes up with a workout duration that is SEVERAL MINUTES shorter than the actual workout, making all of my pace times way faster than they actually are. This isn't a small margin either - Strava consistently reports a duration that is a full 10-20% shorter than my actual workout. This happens for pool swims, open water swims, runs, bikes, etc. It makes the Strava app basically useless. Some of the paid features look interesting, but there's no way I'm paying for an app that is so buggy and doesn't even provide accurate data. Please recognize this as the bug it is, and at least give users an option to use correct data from the devices that are calculating properly.

 There is no solution in this post. Strava modifies data received from users devices. Solutions is not doing this or at least give an option to choose if user wants Strava correct these data is not.