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RJMcGovs
Shkhara
Status: Open To Voting

I have a few suggestions to improve the ability to compare yourself to your previous efforts as well as to other strava riders on the same segments. The ideas apply both to people you are following as well as the public at large. 

1: It would be great if there was a normalized view designed to eliminate comparing yourself to someone's best-ever-performance that came as a result of being in a bunch group (hence, big draft), a huge tailwind, or other outlier performance day. For example, it could be compare the average of your best 10 times on the segment to average of others best 10 times. This would knock-out the outlier performances. 

2: I'd like to be able to compare my segment performance on a season basis, which would help solve the problem of PR's becoming impossible to beat after you've accumulated 50+ attempts on a segment. Something that said your average time on this segment is 5% better than last year, and 15% better than the average of the past 3 years. The overall goal is to learn whether you are improving. This feature is analogous to the ghost of yourself on Zwift segments, which pushes you to always improve. 

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Flubberchr
Mt. Kenya

That's a gréât idea. I have the same. It will be gréât to have a board and KOM with the average of our 10 best times. This idea combinate the local légende and KOM. SO that poeple who do the same segment a lot of time can have a KOM because in one time, you can have the wind that have you provide a lot avantage or a véhicule behind you,....

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benrunin
Mt. Kenya

I second this. I was a subscriber until the price was raised - HOWEVER if a segment average ranking was introduced, I would sign back up in a heartbeat. There are way too many segment poachers out there and they are rewarded for being an outlier because they had a tailwind one day. 

chrisd
Mt. Kenya

Local Hero:  Out of all those who have completed the segment at least X times in the last Y months, this person is fastest. e.g where X=12 and Y=6

chrisd
Mt. Kenya

It keeps the competition open, for the locals, rather than having some pro from who-knows-where get the KOM  and everyone else is kind of shut out.

chrisd
Mt. Kenya

The original idea and the merged idea (local hero) are similar but not the same. They address a similar problem (that of an outlier time or pro claiming KOM), but the solutions are different, and for different user groups.  The original idea partially removes the outlier time from the segment (but not completely, unless you use median or trimmed mean), and it removes times where the KOM has ridden the trail just a few times, so it favors locals (except for extremely popular destination segments).  The original idea is a good one for locals who are still improving (your average time can improve over the years). But the merged idea is good for older, past-their-peak locals, who DO tend to ride the same local segments over and over. I'm one of those. (I'm mostly done with driving 2 hrs to ride some trail, or 6 hour road trips to some MTB destination. And I'm not going to beat my times at Downieville from 15 years ago!)   So, the merged idea (local hero) keeps the local competition more open on a rolling-window-of-time basis, and enables locals to claim a prize, even if a pro rode it 10 times, 3 years ago, and beat everybody.   Otherwise, there's no point me subscribing. I'm not getting any faster, so nothing changes.